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killerwaves) wrote2023-06-25 01:18 am
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crying ;_; this is so much psyche is/was such a good...
thank u for bringing her along, i enjoyed these two's CR so much
AND OH NO THAT SONG IS BEAUTIFUL???
thank u for bringing her along, i enjoyed these two's CR so much
AND OH NO THAT SONG IS BEAUTIFUL???
SHE ACTUALLY DID LIKE WWX not that it's hard, he complimented her and generally fed her ego enough that she was happy to be around him haha. She's still under the impression that things are ~*totally cool*~ because he probably didn't care about Kallamar right??? Who would care about that stinky squid man???*
*She continues to assume this is a widely held opinion and not just her own
WWX ended up being someone she could behave... "normally" around, in the sense that she did her cute act around him and he responded more or less as she expected. For better or for worse, she remained convinced that acting that way would continue to have returns in like... getting attention/affection so... she just continued to do that even though most people saw right through her laughs.
In summary, he's kind (to her) and good looking, so clearly a great person in her book!
*She continues to assume this is a widely held opinion and not just her own
WWX ended up being someone she could behave... "normally" around, in the sense that she did her cute act around him and he responded more or less as she expected. For better or for worse, she remained convinced that acting that way would continue to have returns in like... getting attention/affection so... she just continued to do that even though most people saw right through her laughs.
In summary, he's kind (to her) and good looking, so clearly a great person in her book!
How could this happen to her.
Nona is very facebook status it's complicated. Kanon is always seeking love and attention, but she doesn't really have faith in others to love her for simply being. Nona being attracted to her looks is perfectly expected, but loving her even before she put in all the work to look so much better? That has to be a lie, because who would ever love her looking like that - her experiences told her as much.
Their relationship was honestly a great irony because Nona was offering the one thing Kanon wanted most, but Kanon's self-esteem is too shit for her to believe in unconditional love haha. By the end, she was finally getting used to Nona's oddness somewhat, and even (very very very slightly) accepting that love... There's still a long journey ahead of her, but she might just begin dipping her toes into music or other things she used to be like before she took on her current persona.
Nona is very facebook status it's complicated. Kanon is always seeking love and attention, but she doesn't really have faith in others to love her for simply being. Nona being attracted to her looks is perfectly expected, but loving her even before she put in all the work to look so much better? That has to be a lie, because who would ever love her looking like that - her experiences told her as much.
Their relationship was honestly a great irony because Nona was offering the one thing Kanon wanted most, but Kanon's self-esteem is too shit for her to believe in unconditional love haha. By the end, she was finally getting used to Nona's oddness somewhat, and even (very very very slightly) accepting that love... There's still a long journey ahead of her, but she might just begin dipping her toes into music or other things she used to be like before she took on her current persona.
i do sonya later when i log into him... anyhoo!
steeples fingers
generally speaking, shigaraki is hard to actually piss off nowadays. its all this zen about accepting who he is + knowing people are gonna hate him and that's fine? literally his entire life since childhood.
all that being said he's still human and he quickly filed merlin into "one of those guys" who gets his jollies out of being as annoying as possible. which is really funny bc lmfao.
you can be assured that manchild shigy would have been super bratty towards him instantly and lamely lol.
all of the above aside, shigaraki is always willing to kill 99.9% of people. its not personal??? i cant say with merlin it was but it certainly was something along the lines of scratching a good itch (hah).
he didnt put 2 thoughts into merlin after they killed him, bc why would he? its done with and over. until it wasnt and!!!
augh. fundamentally, on a base level, he just disagrees with resurrection and coming back from the dead. the gamer side of him can wrap his head around it, but the other part of him that embodies his quirk hates it. its unnatural, destroyed/decayed/dead things should stay dead!!!!!!
also the ooey gooey parts of the resurrection spell (at least how he perceived it) made him :|
still, shigy doesnt mind being hated or death threats or any of that, its super natural to him so it didnt bug him that merlin wanted his head. the only part that did was how he was telling the group that he couldnt be trusted cuz shigy was like:
when have i ever lied to you???? ive been this (horrible) the entire team. your beef is with overhaul, not me. and as you know he def hates overhaul so LOL
idk he still expects merlin to show up and try to take his head one day and thats fine!
steeples fingers
generally speaking, shigaraki is hard to actually piss off nowadays. its all this zen about accepting who he is + knowing people are gonna hate him and that's fine? literally his entire life since childhood.
all that being said he's still human and he quickly filed merlin into "one of those guys" who gets his jollies out of being as annoying as possible. which is really funny bc lmfao.
you can be assured that manchild shigy would have been super bratty towards him instantly and lamely lol.
all of the above aside, shigaraki is always willing to kill 99.9% of people. its not personal??? i cant say with merlin it was but it certainly was something along the lines of scratching a good itch (hah).
he didnt put 2 thoughts into merlin after they killed him, bc why would he? its done with and over. until it wasnt and!!!
augh. fundamentally, on a base level, he just disagrees with resurrection and coming back from the dead. the gamer side of him can wrap his head around it, but the other part of him that embodies his quirk hates it. its unnatural, destroyed/decayed/dead things should stay dead!!!!!!
also the ooey gooey parts of the resurrection spell (at least how he perceived it) made him :|
still, shigy doesnt mind being hated or death threats or any of that, its super natural to him so it didnt bug him that merlin wanted his head. the only part that did was how he was telling the group that he couldnt be trusted cuz shigy was like:
when have i ever lied to you???? ive been this (horrible) the entire team. your beef is with overhaul, not me. and as you know he def hates overhaul so LOL
idk he still expects merlin to show up and try to take his head one day and thats fine!
everyone gets sonya when i log back in on him
taps keyboard
shigaraki has had love before, knows what it is, and also has come to the conclusion that the way his life has happened, he is both utterly incapable of it, but also rejects it all the same. hes not here to entertain arguments of how it could save him because... well where was all that when it mattered, huh? its too late now.
all of which is to say im so sorry he just basically told nona to fuck off because its his instinctual response. hes not a tsun, hes just incompatible with emotions/affections being shown that way from a pure angle. obviously he can care and show his own version of "love" but its this twisted, enigmatic thing... and even then, he shoved toga away pretty hard early on until he finally got used to it (and togas love is lol).
overall his thoughts are just: good for you, now go away
smh
taps keyboard
shigaraki has had love before, knows what it is, and also has come to the conclusion that the way his life has happened, he is both utterly incapable of it, but also rejects it all the same. hes not here to entertain arguments of how it could save him because... well where was all that when it mattered, huh? its too late now.
all of which is to say im so sorry he just basically told nona to fuck off because its his instinctual response. hes not a tsun, hes just incompatible with emotions/affections being shown that way from a pure angle. obviously he can care and show his own version of "love" but its this twisted, enigmatic thing... and even then, he shoved toga away pretty hard early on until he finally got used to it (and togas love is lol).
overall his thoughts are just: good for you, now go away
smh
'ooey gooey parts of the resurrection spell made him :|' Sent me jsyk but also to be expected because it is very Him to be sour grapes over it >u<
'your beef is with overhaul not me'
Laughs with salad ganba on that one Shigaraki!!
Also wow would Merlin do that. It'll probably be fine (nah he can sleep with one eye open)
I eagerly await Sonya thoughts nodnod
'your beef is with overhaul not me'
Laughs with salad ganba on that one Shigaraki!!
Also wow would Merlin do that. It'll probably be fine (nah he can sleep with one eye open)
I eagerly await Sonya thoughts nodnod
a little slow i said
AN ENTIRE ASS MONTH LATER its fine
anyway this is a story of 2 people who are not great people, wow shocker!! sonya know he can be a magnetic personality and as a leader type who both has a desire to lead people and use people, thats absolutely what he does smh
which is to say that he pinged kanon immediately for someone who wanted attention and he was more than happy to give it to her, because trading and sharing is the way of the world, yeah? i wouldnt say he disliked her, and if i had to classify it in some way id say he did like her in that he thought she useful....
on the other hand he knew she wasnt nearly as strong as she tried to make herself be but even sheep have uses yeah? yeah. hes a bad person.
but if she did ask a favor of him he would be happy to help her out if there was something in it for him.
and in some way it was kind of nice to relax in their jail thread where he just let her see his full colors and he found it amusing how she accepted it so easily
would kiss again!would sleep with too
AN ENTIRE ASS MONTH LATER its fine
anyway this is a story of 2 people who are not great people, wow shocker!! sonya know he can be a magnetic personality and as a leader type who both has a desire to lead people and use people, thats absolutely what he does smh
which is to say that he pinged kanon immediately for someone who wanted attention and he was more than happy to give it to her, because trading and sharing is the way of the world, yeah? i wouldnt say he disliked her, and if i had to classify it in some way id say he did like her in that he thought she useful....
on the other hand he knew she wasnt nearly as strong as she tried to make herself be but even sheep have uses yeah? yeah. hes a bad person.
but if she did ask a favor of him he would be happy to help her out if there was something in it for him.
and in some way it was kind of nice to relax in their jail thread where he just let her see his full colors and he found it amusing how she accepted it so easily
would kiss again!
Quin...
Oh Quin was fun. And exactly his type. As long as they never discussed unions and the monarchy.
Sonya's power dynamics are pretty interesting as he's someone thats used to wielding a lot of power, but also completely open to sharing it, in his own way. Communism aside, what he's drawn to is powerful women with their own orbit so to say. Some of it is the fun of the game, trying to lure them in and get them to take his hand, and the part is just. He's drawn to being stepped on???? Don't make me say more than that.
i am very very sorry i died and could not finish this cr with you as i desired!!! i will have proper shay shipping one day. just know i absolutely shipped this hard and didnt expect for him to resonate with someone in this exact way thats chefs kiss
Oh Quin was fun. And exactly his type. As long as they never discussed unions and the monarchy.
Sonya's power dynamics are pretty interesting as he's someone thats used to wielding a lot of power, but also completely open to sharing it, in his own way. Communism aside, what he's drawn to is powerful women with their own orbit so to say. Some of it is the fun of the game, trying to lure them in and get them to take his hand, and the part is just. He's drawn to being stepped on???? Don't make me say more than that.
i am very very sorry i died and could not finish this cr with you as i desired!!! i will have proper shay shipping one day. just know i absolutely shipped this hard and didnt expect for him to resonate with someone in this exact way thats chefs kiss
nona... a good girl....
that sonya wanted to lead down a path of growth and communism? basically he both admired the good she saw in everything while also having the fucked up limbus company view of: well you got to break things even if you love them. its fine!!! its all fine in the end.
im glad he died early so he couldnt whisper more communism in her ear.
that sonya wanted to lead down a path of growth and communism? basically he both admired the good she saw in everything while also having the fucked up limbus company view of: well you got to break things even if you love them. its fine!!! its all fine in the end.
im glad he died early so he couldnt whisper more communism in her ear.
merlin, oh, merlin.
its really funny because their first convo and tryst wasn't anything approaching anything close to feelings on sonyas end and then death and the gy happened lol.
sonya is capable of feeling grateful and hes also incredibly delusional as merlin probably knows by now, so like.... he appreciates feeling that merlin recognizes him as the next coming of Stalin because obviously thats what catching his soul for him and reviving him means, right!?!?!
not that he expects anything out of it, but for as much as sonya can feel something resembling fondness, its there with merlin.
would give him an extra helping of borschtand kiss for free.
its really funny because their first convo and tryst wasn't anything approaching anything close to feelings on sonyas end and then death and the gy happened lol.
sonya is capable of feeling grateful and hes also incredibly delusional as merlin probably knows by now, so like.... he appreciates feeling that merlin recognizes him as the next coming of Stalin because obviously thats what catching his soul for him and reviving him means, right!?!?!
not that he expects anything out of it, but for as much as sonya can feel something resembling fondness, its there with merlin.
would give him an extra helping of borscht
HECKING CRYING
honestly, Merlin supports Sonya's efforts, and would have probably at least said smth like good luck or whatnot
Look, he deserves to be a brutal communist leader, it's fine
Anyways, he probably would have enjoyed the borscht, not because he can taste food like normal people and hey. So maybe in some universe he received that 'extra helping'and a kiss
honestly, Merlin supports Sonya's efforts, and would have probably at least said smth like good luck or whatnot
Look, he deserves to be a brutal communist leader, it's fine
Anyways, he probably would have enjoyed the borscht, not because he can taste food like normal people and hey. So maybe in some universe he received that 'extra helping'
i crawl in here late but im here!!!!
whooo their cr. i spent the early weeks yelling about their cr in mod chat. it was really interesting bc for the longest time i wasnt sure how to classify their cr, because while it def wholly positive in a normal sense, shigaraki sense isn't that simple.
obviously he went out of his way for her, given he checked up on her after lobelia's trial, met with her before he came out to the rest of the cast etc--- it was part curiosity, part wanting to call her bluff, and part whimsy. fundamentally they agreed and disagreed on pretty much everything, and in a way she really was like deku is to him in canon; he'll never understand her viewpoint which will be at odds with his 99% of the time, but he can also understand it in his own way, even if that makes no sense.
in the later weeks though, he did feel like they were headed for conflict more than anything else, which is fine-- part of it is bc of ibuki/moravia, not that he doesnt trust his own people to fight their battles, but because ultimately he is just very protective, and he didnt super like what was going on at times there. that and obviously lacus was also part of the living cast and not some different aligned identity. its weird bc part of him wanted to see her fail and another part of him wanted to see her succeed and in the end with how the stuff with overhaul went, both things kinda happened.
i cant even say the enemy of my enemy is my friend because this doesnt fit them either, and it was truly a unique cr experience-- in the end i would have had to roll to see if he would have protected her or not if it came down to it, given the fluctuations in his feelings and his general feelings of whimsy; he will do things sometimes for no apparent reason because he feels like it. he isnt thinking too hard at most given points anymore, which is both simple and complicated.
like their cr!!!!
when he wakes up, he'll contact her at some point randomly-- maybe in a stupid way like: hey i destroyed my world did u save urs yet
bc thats how he is
he would both kill her with no regrets and also save her with no regrets, and i think that says enough on its own.
im always happy when i can get luna cr like this, and it truly was different from capos. i hope to get it again next game!
whooo their cr. i spent the early weeks yelling about their cr in mod chat. it was really interesting bc for the longest time i wasnt sure how to classify their cr, because while it def wholly positive in a normal sense, shigaraki sense isn't that simple.
obviously he went out of his way for her, given he checked up on her after lobelia's trial, met with her before he came out to the rest of the cast etc--- it was part curiosity, part wanting to call her bluff, and part whimsy. fundamentally they agreed and disagreed on pretty much everything, and in a way she really was like deku is to him in canon; he'll never understand her viewpoint which will be at odds with his 99% of the time, but he can also understand it in his own way, even if that makes no sense.
in the later weeks though, he did feel like they were headed for conflict more than anything else, which is fine-- part of it is bc of ibuki/moravia, not that he doesnt trust his own people to fight their battles, but because ultimately he is just very protective, and he didnt super like what was going on at times there. that and obviously lacus was also part of the living cast and not some different aligned identity. its weird bc part of him wanted to see her fail and another part of him wanted to see her succeed and in the end with how the stuff with overhaul went, both things kinda happened.
i cant even say the enemy of my enemy is my friend because this doesnt fit them either, and it was truly a unique cr experience-- in the end i would have had to roll to see if he would have protected her or not if it came down to it, given the fluctuations in his feelings and his general feelings of whimsy; he will do things sometimes for no apparent reason because he feels like it. he isnt thinking too hard at most given points anymore, which is both simple and complicated.
like their cr!!!!
when he wakes up, he'll contact her at some point randomly-- maybe in a stupid way like: hey i destroyed my world did u save urs yet
bc thats how he is
he would both kill her with no regrets and also save her with no regrets, and i think that says enough on its own.
im always happy when i can get luna cr like this, and it truly was different from capos. i hope to get it again next game!
pulls up lawn chair
okay lets see if i can do this
shigaraki went into this game very sleepy and with 0 thoughts other than: i gotta kill overhaul again once hes made the serum. full stop, thats it. since hes awakened shigaraki, there arent many thoughts in his head nowadays since hes reached nirvana. this is relevant because
lacus and moravia were the only 2 initially who made him actually think. its not a bad thing, but it meant he had interest there, doubly so in moravia's case since another world destroyer. i mean those are his kind of people, but even in their first conversation it was framed in the "now i have an interest in not seeing you die", which also isnt new... except moravia wasnt asking for anything. which is a big huh, and again not in a bad way.
and their subsequent questions were more of that, with the added spice of shigy just cheering for destruction because its who he is, in the literal sense that only mha characters can be. he probably would have stopped to think what this was doing for him feeling wise if there was any resistance here but there wasnt, and another theme he has is just building and building and building, or destroying, destroying, and destroying. its a chain reaction, a cascade, and all of that is just extremely natural for him.
it started to get a bit more personal when he asked if they thought he was more human or goat, because he considers himself neither, he is just himself. so that answer, even if it wasnt the same as how he views himself in his mind, did reinforce that they get it. they get being different in a way from everyone else.
you get into after lobelia trial thread and its more building but also shigy talking about love, and for a villain hes in a unique position here where he actually knows what that feels like, but hes decided to reject it. he wont bend to how society views that should be or anything around it, and again they resonated here even if it wasnt exactly the same.
theyre both villains and theyve both accepted it. its also where he realizes himself that he enjoys their company at this point, and hes okay with that because hes had the growth in canon to realize that as much as he doesnt need anyone, company is fun. hes a loner, but he also values connections, as long as their on his terms and within his expectations. hes accepted all of this and realized that after this point when they hit him with the offering of their hand.
hands and him will always, always, always be a thing. i wrote that it was the repetition that got him, but it was also the way they said it; with no strings attached, no wants attached, no adoration attached, it just was. the only time hes ever been offered a hand like that is with AFO. it just was.
and even if hes no longer tenko shimura who wants to help people, wants to help others, that simple phrase hit him at his core that still reaches for connections, for out stretched hands
So very obviously, that changed a lot on his end, in a way he was aware of (for now). he wasnt going to do anything for them for no reason, but he also was willing and wanted to expend more effort. like the loot.
WHICH WAS NOT MEANT TO BE A BIRTHDAY PRESENT BUT EVERYONES :O FACE HERE. and here is the start of the things he has no idea about but is enjoying them and this is a trend that will only increase. he knows enough about birthdays to know what you normally do on them and since he gives them like toga in the sense that they like some normalcy, this is why he wished them a proper happy bday once he realized that was a thing. its not something hed ever normally do on his own but since he thought theyd like it. he did it. you can clearly see how this is is the beginning of the rest of EVERYTHING
"ibuki/moravia enjoys this and i enjoy them so i am going to keep giving it to them"
face in hands
which is why he decides to actually do something for their birthday since!!! they would like that. and the other bit was just accidental??? this is his way of being thoughtful.
and then heres there feedback loop where hes pleased to know their pleased. and bc his life is about doing whatever he wants now, whatever he feels good, hes going to keep doing this going forward. which he does. perhaps too much? no its not too much to him. some notions about ibuki/moravia deserving the world if they want it but theres no deserving involved and more just shigy being like: oh you want this and i can give it? here :> please see the:
"You can ask, you know. (...) Whatever you want."
i gotta go back a bit here so gomen for jumping around, but this dialogue was really important:
"You said you'd lend me your hand, right? So I'm givin' you mine. Hands are meant to hold onto somethin', whatever that it is, or whoever that is."
This is really, truly, wholly, how he views them at this point. For better or worse, which is why he was super clear on the meeting with Billy that no, they're (mine), so if you touch them we're going to have a problem.
wheezes at skywarps everything. this more of the above but also them both acting on it, including the murder. he was on a manic high after all that whole trial, both vibing off the good of them getting away with it, but also the bad of lacus being frustrated because hes not a good person!!!
which is why he just takes their hand like that without putting any thought into it because uh. theyve been doing that already??? basically???? and he is against all odds, not against physical affection. i spent so much time reviewing on this because i couldnt believe it myself but hes actually big on showing it in small ways for those he cares about it, i cant even call him neutral on it, shocking things about shigy i know but its probably because he used to be very touchy as a kid.
...and i feel like the physical affection spiraled quickly like the rest of the above because apparently thats just their MO.
he doesnt know what to call what they have, but he knows (and is not shy) about caring about them a whole lot. theyre on a whole different level than the rest of the league, because he views them as equals and thats tremendously important in just letting him vibe in a way he doesnt do with anyone else.
the last big change here that crystallized everything for him was when he asked them what they wanted when their time was coming to an end. because yeah, as much as he felt the above, he also wasnt thinking about the future because thats not how he works. the fact that their answer included him threw him for a million loops, and it only was comprehensible to them because of literally everything they built so far. or i should say that he doesnt understand but he understands that he doesnt NEED to understand , which is really funny but lol.
so yeah, he can do this. he can let himself put a thought in a future when he doesnt really believe in that word, because he does believe in them. they make him feel all kinds of things, maybe some things he doesnt think he can properly feel anymore??? but he also feels like theyd never expect that of him so hes going to continue just following his impulses and yes i regret to inform you this means actual, purposeful cuddling in their end game thread. he enjoys touching them???? and it makes him feel a way that they never once had an aversion to that. in a way, they make him feel as normal as he possibly can be, while also accepting and liking everything he is even if those things should be incongruent.
where does this put them???
please see his answer to the date question on final confrontation. he doesnt see a need to put a name to it. he doesnt fit in the bounds of society or their norms, and he knows they dont either, and thats what their relationship is about.
no matter what, he wont let go of their hand.
okay lets see if i can do this
shigaraki went into this game very sleepy and with 0 thoughts other than: i gotta kill overhaul again once hes made the serum. full stop, thats it. since hes awakened shigaraki, there arent many thoughts in his head nowadays since hes reached nirvana. this is relevant because
lacus and moravia were the only 2 initially who made him actually think. its not a bad thing, but it meant he had interest there, doubly so in moravia's case since another world destroyer. i mean those are his kind of people, but even in their first conversation it was framed in the "now i have an interest in not seeing you die", which also isnt new... except moravia wasnt asking for anything. which is a big huh, and again not in a bad way.
and their subsequent questions were more of that, with the added spice of shigy just cheering for destruction because its who he is, in the literal sense that only mha characters can be. he probably would have stopped to think what this was doing for him feeling wise if there was any resistance here but there wasnt, and another theme he has is just building and building and building, or destroying, destroying, and destroying. its a chain reaction, a cascade, and all of that is just extremely natural for him.
it started to get a bit more personal when he asked if they thought he was more human or goat, because he considers himself neither, he is just himself. so that answer, even if it wasnt the same as how he views himself in his mind, did reinforce that they get it. they get being different in a way from everyone else.
you get into after lobelia trial thread and its more building but also shigy talking about love, and for a villain hes in a unique position here where he actually knows what that feels like, but hes decided to reject it. he wont bend to how society views that should be or anything around it, and again they resonated here even if it wasnt exactly the same.
theyre both villains and theyve both accepted it. its also where he realizes himself that he enjoys their company at this point, and hes okay with that because hes had the growth in canon to realize that as much as he doesnt need anyone, company is fun. hes a loner, but he also values connections, as long as their on his terms and within his expectations. hes accepted all of this and realized that after this point when they hit him with the offering of their hand.
hands and him will always, always, always be a thing. i wrote that it was the repetition that got him, but it was also the way they said it; with no strings attached, no wants attached, no adoration attached, it just was. the only time hes ever been offered a hand like that is with AFO. it just was.
and even if hes no longer tenko shimura who wants to help people, wants to help others, that simple phrase hit him at his core that still reaches for connections, for out stretched hands
So very obviously, that changed a lot on his end, in a way he was aware of (for now). he wasnt going to do anything for them for no reason, but he also was willing and wanted to expend more effort. like the loot.
WHICH WAS NOT MEANT TO BE A BIRTHDAY PRESENT BUT EVERYONES :O FACE HERE. and here is the start of the things he has no idea about but is enjoying them and this is a trend that will only increase. he knows enough about birthdays to know what you normally do on them and since he gives them like toga in the sense that they like some normalcy, this is why he wished them a proper happy bday once he realized that was a thing. its not something hed ever normally do on his own but since he thought theyd like it. he did it. you can clearly see how this is is the beginning of the rest of EVERYTHING
"ibuki/moravia enjoys this and i enjoy them so i am going to keep giving it to them"
face in hands
which is why he decides to actually do something for their birthday since!!! they would like that. and the other bit was just accidental??? this is his way of being thoughtful.
and then heres there feedback loop where hes pleased to know their pleased. and bc his life is about doing whatever he wants now, whatever he feels good, hes going to keep doing this going forward. which he does. perhaps too much? no its not too much to him. some notions about ibuki/moravia deserving the world if they want it but theres no deserving involved and more just shigy being like: oh you want this and i can give it? here :> please see the:
"You can ask, you know. (...) Whatever you want."
i gotta go back a bit here so gomen for jumping around, but this dialogue was really important:
"You said you'd lend me your hand, right? So I'm givin' you mine. Hands are meant to hold onto somethin', whatever that it is, or whoever that is."
This is really, truly, wholly, how he views them at this point. For better or worse, which is why he was super clear on the meeting with Billy that no, they're (mine), so if you touch them we're going to have a problem.
wheezes at skywarps everything. this more of the above but also them both acting on it, including the murder. he was on a manic high after all that whole trial, both vibing off the good of them getting away with it, but also the bad of lacus being frustrated because hes not a good person!!!
which is why he just takes their hand like that without putting any thought into it because uh. theyve been doing that already??? basically???? and he is against all odds, not against physical affection. i spent so much time reviewing on this because i couldnt believe it myself but hes actually big on showing it in small ways for those he cares about it, i cant even call him neutral on it, shocking things about shigy i know but its probably because he used to be very touchy as a kid.
...and i feel like the physical affection spiraled quickly like the rest of the above because apparently thats just their MO.
he doesnt know what to call what they have, but he knows (and is not shy) about caring about them a whole lot. theyre on a whole different level than the rest of the league, because he views them as equals and thats tremendously important in just letting him vibe in a way he doesnt do with anyone else.
the last big change here that crystallized everything for him was when he asked them what they wanted when their time was coming to an end. because yeah, as much as he felt the above, he also wasnt thinking about the future because thats not how he works. the fact that their answer included him threw him for a million loops, and it only was comprehensible to them because of literally everything they built so far. or i should say that he doesnt understand but he understands that he doesnt NEED to understand , which is really funny but lol.
so yeah, he can do this. he can let himself put a thought in a future when he doesnt really believe in that word, because he does believe in them. they make him feel all kinds of things, maybe some things he doesnt think he can properly feel anymore??? but he also feels like theyd never expect that of him so hes going to continue just following his impulses and yes i regret to inform you this means actual, purposeful cuddling in their end game thread. he enjoys touching them???? and it makes him feel a way that they never once had an aversion to that. in a way, they make him feel as normal as he possibly can be, while also accepting and liking everything he is even if those things should be incongruent.
where does this put them???
please see his answer to the date question on final confrontation. he doesnt see a need to put a name to it. he doesnt fit in the bounds of society or their norms, and he knows they dont either, and thats what their relationship is about.
no matter what, he wont let go of their hand.
Edited 2023-07-29 17:57 (UTC)
THEY WERE SUCH A FASCINATING MESS, I say crawling in here ages later as well, gosh.
Shigaraki is precious to Lacus in a way that is different from how she feels about anyone else, even Lobelia despite the fact that Shigaraki and Lobelia started out by hitting into a very similar niche in Lacus' heart.
It's a CR that could really only exist this way because of Lacus' canon-point. If she hadn't been so concerned with figuring out how to be a good ruler, she would have more easily looked Shigaraki in the face and been like 'hey, your way of doing things sucks' - but as it was, he made her realize that people like him are going to be among the people she has to watch over.
Shigaraki came to represent the perfect paradox in her identity as a government official, and she was constantly looking to him as a learning experience. She never did solve the question of how to build a world in which he could be happy, but she's going to keep dwelling on it forever to try and get ever closer. That's the kind of inspiration he gave to her.
While on a personal level, she honestly just found him pretty pleasant? She was initially getting along with him to grill him for info, but soon enough she just got comfortable speaking her mind with him and just shooting the shit.
I think part of her issue with Moravia/Ibuki was honestly that she felt a bit jealous - not of their bond, but of the mere ability to be partial without feeling any guilt about it, lmao. Trying to keep herself mostly objective and non-offensive was really taking more out of her in context of a murdergame than it does in canon.
I really really enjoyed him needling her in the finale and giving her motivation in that. I think that is probably also like... the most fascinating aspect of them? The fact that Lacus can show him her weak side even though he is also someone who prompts her to rise and prove her ideals, in the end.
Lacus doesn't think that she and Shigaraki will ever be able to exist in the same world for too long without it leading to disaster, but she's absolutely going to want to keep contact once he finally surfaces again. He should tell her about the world his allies are building, for starters!!
I think Shigaraki, more than anyone, might also get her venting. Like if there's anyone she'll text "why is board member x such a bitch" to, it's him. She is tired of being nice, ok. But she will not go ape shit, thanks.
THEY WERE REALLY GOOD AND I ENJOYED THEM SO MUCH, it's the most complicated CR we had yet and I am SO PLEASED
Shigaraki is precious to Lacus in a way that is different from how she feels about anyone else, even Lobelia despite the fact that Shigaraki and Lobelia started out by hitting into a very similar niche in Lacus' heart.
It's a CR that could really only exist this way because of Lacus' canon-point. If she hadn't been so concerned with figuring out how to be a good ruler, she would have more easily looked Shigaraki in the face and been like 'hey, your way of doing things sucks' - but as it was, he made her realize that people like him are going to be among the people she has to watch over.
Shigaraki came to represent the perfect paradox in her identity as a government official, and she was constantly looking to him as a learning experience. She never did solve the question of how to build a world in which he could be happy, but she's going to keep dwelling on it forever to try and get ever closer. That's the kind of inspiration he gave to her.
While on a personal level, she honestly just found him pretty pleasant? She was initially getting along with him to grill him for info, but soon enough she just got comfortable speaking her mind with him and just shooting the shit.
I think part of her issue with Moravia/Ibuki was honestly that she felt a bit jealous - not of their bond, but of the mere ability to be partial without feeling any guilt about it, lmao. Trying to keep herself mostly objective and non-offensive was really taking more out of her in context of a murdergame than it does in canon.
I really really enjoyed him needling her in the finale and giving her motivation in that. I think that is probably also like... the most fascinating aspect of them? The fact that Lacus can show him her weak side even though he is also someone who prompts her to rise and prove her ideals, in the end.
Lacus doesn't think that she and Shigaraki will ever be able to exist in the same world for too long without it leading to disaster, but she's absolutely going to want to keep contact once he finally surfaces again. He should tell her about the world his allies are building, for starters!!
I think Shigaraki, more than anyone, might also get her venting. Like if there's anyone she'll text "why is board member x such a bitch" to, it's him. She is tired of being nice, ok. But she will not go ape shit, thanks.
THEY WERE REALLY GOOD AND I ENJOYED THEM SO MUCH, it's the most complicated CR we had yet and I am SO PLEASED
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